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#69032 - 05/27/04 06:02 AM Any Everquest players?
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If anyone here plays the game Everquest, in the latest issue of PC Gamer is 2 codes for everquest players - one code is for a shield and one is a possible chance to be a player in the upcoming everquest 2 beta test.

The reason I say this is if anyone wants my code for the everquest 2 invite please say so and I will send it to you via PM - first come first serve basis.

The code may or may not be a winner as only 10,000 of the codes they printed are valid but I hate to see it go to waste.

I already promised the shield to a friend or I would give that a way too As I don't play online games.
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#69033 - 05/27/04 04:29 PM Re: Any Everquest players?
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I never agreed with games that make you PAY to PLAY after you've already bought the game. Games like Unreal and Quake have proven that you can play online without having to pay. Sorry but I'm not paying a monthly freakin subscription to play a game I already paid $50 for. That's f'ng stupid!
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#69034 - 05/27/04 04:38 PM Re: Any Everquest players?
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I never agreed with games that make you PAY to PLAY after you've already bought the game. Games like Unreal and Quake have proven that you can play online without having to pay. Sorry but I'm not paying a monthly freakin subscription to play a game I already paid $50 for. That's f'ng stupid!




I dont think you have to pay for everquest 2 until it comes out of beta and they actually start selling the game. At least that is what they do most of the time when beta testing one of those type games.
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#69035 - 05/27/04 06:58 PM Re: Any Everquest players?
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I must agree with Wesley. A subscription is rather stupid considering the hefty price up front for the game itself. I can understand the reason (more money), but why not do it differently? Why charge more if not to make money? If that is the case, why not give it away free and then let people pay a subscription. That's a good compromise. Would get more people playing I would think. Also more people online, more booming place. It keeps going and going. Perhaps that hefty up front price is that extra boost in their portfolio. I say; Either give it a one time fee, or no hefty upfront cost and simply set up a subcription.

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#69036 - 05/27/04 07:20 PM Re: Any Everquest players?
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Quote:

I must agree with Wesley. A subscription is rather stupid considering the hefty price up front for the game itself. I can understand the reason (more money), but why not do it differently? Why charge more if not to make money? If that is the case, why not give it away free and then let people pay a subscription. That's a good compromise. Would get more people playing I would think. Also more people online, more booming place. It keeps going and going. Perhaps that hefty up front price is that extra boost in their portfolio. I say; Either give it a one time fee, or no hefty upfront cost and simply set up a subcription.




Kristopher,
I agree with you, and some game companies are actually starting to work that way since alot of people are smartening up and not buying a game and then paying monthly charges on top of that like they used to do in the past.

I know wizards of the coast offers the magic the gathering full online version at http://www.wizards.com/magiconline/download_client.asp and even allows you a trial run before you create an account.

Personally I like games like neverwinter nights that allows me to play the game online if i was in to that sort of thing, and they allow you to play it online for free.

I am like you and wesley and I don't think I should have to pay monthly charges to play a game I bought. In fact, that is why I never bought the everquest games since I could not play them offline. If I want to play online games there are plenty of freeware ones like legend of the green dragon
at http://lotgd.net/home.php as well as others
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#69037 - 06/02/04 03:30 AM Re: Any Everquest players?
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I bought my fiance Need For Speed: Motor City without realizing that it was an online ONLY game. It didn't even say that on the packaging ANYWHERE. I only found out when installing the game and it asked me for my credit card number and asked me to agree to the TOS. I didn't agree and cancled the installation.

Then I tried to take it back to KMart and they tried to give me a hassel with returning it. I said, "Look, it says in the TOS that if I dont agree with it to cancle the installation and return the software. That is what I am doing. This game, like most new games, can only be played with the actual game disc in the drive, not a copy. So I couldn't even play this game if I wanted to. And I don't! It doesn't say anywhere on here that this is strictly an online game and that an additional subscription fee would apply. So give me my damned money back."
They did but told me I wouldn't be able to return any other games. I said, "Have you had me return other games here before? Was it that big of a problem in the past? No. That being the case, cut the chatter and make with giving me my money back."
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#69038 - 06/02/04 05:00 AM Re: Any Everquest players?
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Yep, you really got to read the fine print Usally what they say when they don't come out and say it's an online game is they will say internet required or some crap like that as most regular games will say internet required for multiplay mode meaning you can play it in single mode as well.

Kmart is super funny about returning software. Usally they only will exchange it for the same game you got before. At least that is the policy here.
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#69039 - 08/20/04 11:01 PM Thanks trallyus!
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If I want to play online games there are plenty of freeware ones like legend of the green dragon
at http://lotgd.net/home.php




Oh and by the way trallyus this game rocks!
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#69040 - 08/20/04 11:10 PM Re: Thanks trallyus!
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I am glad you like it Jim My friend still plays it and says it has changed some since I first posted the link. She says now that you can walk from town to town and get in to fights while walking to them, etc. It's alot different then she is used to when I first posted the link, and at first she did not like the changes but she is getting used to it now

She has slain the dragon a few times now i think

I am glad someone else likes old school type games and decided to try it out even if it is a text game
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#69041 - 08/20/04 11:50 PM Re: Thanks trallyus!
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I just signed up, and was immediately sucked in. I'm hooked, darnit! Thanks.

Vicki
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#69042 - 08/20/04 11:59 PM Re: Thanks trallyus!
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I saw you there Farmgirl zmama! I am Farmboy WilliamtheBloody.
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#69043 - 08/21/04 01:44 AM Re: Thanks trallyus!
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Must... stop... playing...
I'm a Farm Boy, TonyC
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#69044 - 08/21/04 01:47 AM Re: Thanks trallyus!
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Cool! I died, so I had to leave (plus I had some other stuff to do in real life).

I'll keep my eyes open for you two

Do you have to wait till the next day before you can play again? I didn't get a chance to finish reading the FAQ.

Vicki
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#69045 - 08/21/04 01:52 AM Re: Thanks trallyus!
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I'm dead
Thanks for giving something to do while I compile KDE 3.3.
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#69046 - 08/21/04 02:46 AM Re: Thanks trallyus!
trallyus Offline

The IDEA Man

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Sorry for getting you all addicted to the game As for when the games next day starts, I think it is 12 midnight EST if I rememeber right

Also when you die, you can also go torment souls in the graveyard to gain points to impress the god of the dead, i forget his name, and you can use those points to get healed after tormenting sould, or for 100 points he will be impressed and restore you to life.

I did not know the above until my friend told me about this trick Just in case your new and missed it
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#69047 - 08/21/04 04:09 AM Re: Thanks trallyus!
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Do you have to wait till the next day before you can play again? I didn't get a chance to finish reading the FAQ.





There are two days in a day if that makes since. The clock in the towns tells you what time it is there.
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#69048 - 08/21/04 04:13 AM Re: Thanks trallyus!
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Also when I used to go to that website, before you log in, it would tell you how many hours before the new day would start as well Not sure if it still does that though as it has been a while since I played it

Looks like it still does that as right above the green dragon graphic it says -

Welcome to Legend of the Green Dragon, a browser based role playing game, based on Seth Able's Legend of the Red Dragon.
The current time in Degolburg is 4:26 pm.
Next new game day in: 3h, 46m, 46s (real time)

The newest resident of the realm is: Farmboy Xaos

The most recent hero of the realm is: Sir Tim

Enter your name and password to enter the realm.

The time next to where it says (Real Time) is how much time needs to elapse before the new day starts
In the above it is 3h, 46m, 46s (real time)


Edited by trallyus (08/21/04 04:16 AM)
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#69049 - 09/04/04 02:18 PM Re: Thanks trallyus!
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The discussion about "pay to play" is really old, but I have to get a word in there to clear some things up. First off, comparing quake/unreal tournament to an MMORPG is like comparing apples to oranges. They're both games, and they both have online capabilities, but the major difference between them is that quake/unreal's servers are hosted by the users. They're not hosted by the company who made the game. With MMORPG's (EverQuest, Star Wars Galaxies, World of Warcraft, etc) the company who made the game hosts the servers, and the servers have to be able to have about 3,000 or more people on at any given time.

Generally, games like EverQuest have multiple servers per server... like, you see one server on the server list, but it actually has the content ("zones") of that one server divided onto multiple servers. Combine the initial cost of the servers with the continuing cost of an OC* internet connection, and after a while (EverQuest has been going for what, 5 years now?) the money from the initial game purchases runs out, leading to no profit whatsoever from the game. This is where the subscriptions and expansion packs come in.

Of course, if you don't want to pay a monthly fee you could always just play on an emulated server. Emulated servers are servers like Quake/Unreal Tournament, where users volunteer to host the game. I'm pretty sure the game companies are against this, but with all of the seriously skilled coders out there they can't really avoid it if someone wants it to be done. You can generally play on these emulated servers completely free, but you won't get the same experience as you would on the company's own servers. (For example, a server emulator for EQ is "EQEmu," found at http://www.eqemulator.net/main.php)

I hope this clears things up a bit.

Oh, and Trallyus, when you sent me a PM on Leoville with this offer some months back, I tried to respond to tell you I quit EQ but you had PM's turned off.

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#69050 - 09/04/04 09:25 PM Re: Thanks trallyus!
trallyus Offline

The IDEA Man

Registered: 11/11/03
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No problem I quit the day after I sent that PM to you I am not a big online gamer anyway since I don't like being around anyone other then computer NPC's
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#69051 - 09/22/04 08:15 PM Re: Thanks trallyus!
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The IDEA Man

Registered: 11/11/03
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For those that play Everquest or those that do not play it due to subscriptions and the such, you may be interested in taking a look at a new everquest type game I found called "Rubies of Eventide" More info about the game is at http://www.cyberwar.com/ , You can find a link to download the 383 mb program there as well. From what I can tell , the game is free as well as playing the game on their server is free as well. They do ask for donations if you like the game though . I have not tryed it due to being on dial up , but it looked good to me . Here is a screenshot of the game http://juliahowe.com/roepic.jpg
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